Gordon Muir
2011-08-30 15:44:25 UTC
Hello Bruce,the problem is not just lying,it is very coincidental
that
hundreds of people who were involved in the moonies are saying they
were lied to,decieved,misled usualy just after completion of all the
workshops when members INTENTIONALY use the teachings to lie,decieve
and mislead people,this is just TOO COINCIDENTAL that hundreds of
people worldwide are having the identical bad experiences after being
involved with the moonies.
I suspect the lying must be intentional just as the marraige rituals
where the married couple have to beat each other over the buttocks
with a bat is intentionaly harming another person for no rational
reason.
WHAT OTHER RATIONAL REASON IS THERE TO EXPLAIN THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
who have been lied to decieved and misled after being involved with
the moonies AND WHY DO THEY INTENTIONALY LIE,is it to bring harm on
others and themselves?
that
hundreds of people who were involved in the moonies are saying they
were lied to,decieved,misled usualy just after completion of all the
workshops when members INTENTIONALY use the teachings to lie,decieve
and mislead people,this is just TOO COINCIDENTAL that hundreds of
people worldwide are having the identical bad experiences after being
involved with the moonies.
I suspect the lying must be intentional just as the marraige rituals
where the married couple have to beat each other over the buttocks
with a bat is intentionaly harming another person for no rational
reason.
WHAT OTHER RATIONAL REASON IS THERE TO EXPLAIN THE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE
who have been lied to decieved and misled after being involved with
the moonies AND WHY DO THEY INTENTIONALY LIE,is it to bring harm on
others and themselves?
Ya know, if there is anything you can without question believe,
it is nothing.
Everybody lies, some out of self defense, others in order to profit.
But rarely do you find somebody willing to lie for the benefit of
others.
1 John 4:1 says it best..
1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit by try (test) the spirits whether
they are of God. For many false prophets have come unto the world.
In the end you have to ask yourself, did you gain from the experience?
On the other hand it is all relative. I have found no such thing as an
absolute
truth. What is good for one person may not be good for another.
No one thing is good for everyone, it's all relative.
Sun Myung Moon has suggested as much in his speeches, but everyone
has their own opinion of his meaning.
In our limited minds, and based upon what we were told 2+2=4, but even
that is relative to the each and every individual. There is no such
thing as
finite, the universe is infinite.
it is nothing.
Everybody lies, some out of self defense, others in order to profit.
But rarely do you find somebody willing to lie for the benefit of
others.
1 John 4:1 says it best..
1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit by try (test) the spirits whether
they are of God. For many false prophets have come unto the world.
In the end you have to ask yourself, did you gain from the experience?
On the other hand it is all relative. I have found no such thing as an
absolute
truth. What is good for one person may not be good for another.
No one thing is good for everyone, it's all relative.
Sun Myung Moon has suggested as much in his speeches, but everyone
has their own opinion of his meaning.
In our limited minds, and based upon what we were told 2+2=4, but even
that is relative to the each and every individual. There is no such
thing as
finite, the universe is infinite.
I met the moonies in 1985,they were nice people and invited me on
workshops and i had a great time meeting new people and then being
told at the end of the 21 days workshop THAT THEY BELIEVE REV MOON IS
THE MESSIAH,i was blown away and excited to get more involved but
ONLY
AS AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER i was NOT prepaired to join full time but when
i came back from the workshop some members caused me confusion so i
went around asking them WHAT WAS TRUE and WHAT WAS FALSE thats when
Stuart Webster a fulltime moonie married by Rev Moon with a young
child OUT AND OUT INTENTIONALY LIED TO ME abusing the messiah's
teachings and and my future,i suspected he was possibly incorrect but
could not believe how a fulltime moonie with a family married BY THE
MESSIAH could even think of lying to another human being especialy
when THEY TEACH HIGH MORAL STANDARDS so i asked other moonies to sort
out the confusion but they seemed as confused what to believe as i
was
and gave me half truths or some agreed with Stuart Webster because
they did not know any better what to say so and i was kept in the
dark
for 12 years afterwards until an argument with a new leader made me
reaslise that these moonies PLAY GAME WITH SERIOUS TEACHINGS AND WITH
PEOPLES LIVES and at that moment i realised i had been following A
BIG
LIE FOR 12 YEARS.
What kind of example of moral high standards are they sending out to
society.
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Damian Anderson and many other moonies AGREE WITH and protect moonies
who INTENTIONALY ABUSE THE MESSIAH'S TEACHINGS AND REPUTATION to
lie,decieve and mislead people.
If you get angry they go to the police then get social workers to
lock
you up for over 2 months in a psychiatric hospital WHERE MEDICAL
RECORDS ARE BLATANTLY FALSIFIED so WE HAVE CRIMINAL MOONIES
lying,decieving,misleading,DESTROYING,DAMAGING peoples lives who then
get criminal police and social workers to INCREASE HELL ON EARTH IN
YOUR LIFE,so obviously THEY SERVE HELL and not HEAVEN.
THIS IS ALL FACTUALY TRUE but they will report this to the police to
suppress the truth and force you to believe a lie AND SAY THEY GET A
LOT OF PERSECUSSION,no wonder they get a bad reputation JUST LIKE THE
VATICAN DOES.
They are just like the vatican who protects child abuser priests.
Stuart Webster who INTENTIONALY used the messiahs teachings to
INTENTIONALY lie,decieve and mislead me knowing he was doing so and i
was kept in the dark for 12 years afterwards.
Other moonies i asked to sort out the confusion seemed as confused
what to believe as i was and gave me half truths or some agreed with
Stuart Webster because they did not know any better what to say.
Also psychics tell me the police instructed doctors to inject my
brother with AIDS causing him to drop dead from contracting
tuberculosis and this is THERE SICK WAY OF USING BRUTALITY to control
you as if you are cattle,all this is cause me to expose these
criminals even more so they cannot be able to commit crimes against
innocent people.
workshops and i had a great time meeting new people and then being
told at the end of the 21 days workshop THAT THEY BELIEVE REV MOON IS
THE MESSIAH,i was blown away and excited to get more involved but
ONLY
AS AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER i was NOT prepaired to join full time but when
i came back from the workshop some members caused me confusion so i
went around asking them WHAT WAS TRUE and WHAT WAS FALSE thats when
Stuart Webster a fulltime moonie married by Rev Moon with a young
child OUT AND OUT INTENTIONALY LIED TO ME abusing the messiah's
teachings and and my future,i suspected he was possibly incorrect but
could not believe how a fulltime moonie with a family married BY THE
MESSIAH could even think of lying to another human being especialy
when THEY TEACH HIGH MORAL STANDARDS so i asked other moonies to sort
out the confusion but they seemed as confused what to believe as i
was
and gave me half truths or some agreed with Stuart Webster because
they did not know any better what to say so and i was kept in the
dark
for 12 years afterwards until an argument with a new leader made me
reaslise that these moonies PLAY GAME WITH SERIOUS TEACHINGS AND WITH
PEOPLES LIVES and at that moment i realised i had been following A
BIG
LIE FOR 12 YEARS.
What kind of example of moral high standards are they sending out to
society.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------
Damian Anderson and many other moonies AGREE WITH and protect moonies
who INTENTIONALY ABUSE THE MESSIAH'S TEACHINGS AND REPUTATION to
lie,decieve and mislead people.
If you get angry they go to the police then get social workers to
lock
you up for over 2 months in a psychiatric hospital WHERE MEDICAL
RECORDS ARE BLATANTLY FALSIFIED so WE HAVE CRIMINAL MOONIES
lying,decieving,misleading,DESTROYING,DAMAGING peoples lives who then
get criminal police and social workers to INCREASE HELL ON EARTH IN
YOUR LIFE,so obviously THEY SERVE HELL and not HEAVEN.
THIS IS ALL FACTUALY TRUE but they will report this to the police to
suppress the truth and force you to believe a lie AND SAY THEY GET A
LOT OF PERSECUSSION,no wonder they get a bad reputation JUST LIKE THE
VATICAN DOES.
They are just like the vatican who protects child abuser priests.
Stuart Webster who INTENTIONALY used the messiahs teachings to
INTENTIONALY lie,decieve and mislead me knowing he was doing so and i
was kept in the dark for 12 years afterwards.
Other moonies i asked to sort out the confusion seemed as confused
what to believe as i was and gave me half truths or some agreed with
Stuart Webster because they did not know any better what to say.
Also psychics tell me the police instructed doctors to inject my
brother with AIDS causing him to drop dead from contracting
tuberculosis and this is THERE SICK WAY OF USING BRUTALITY to control
you as if you are cattle,all this is cause me to expose these
criminals even more so they cannot be able to commit crimes against
innocent people.