"Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Post by bd4u.utah
This is the second commandment of Jesus Christ!
So who is your neighbor? Is he/she a Christian?
Is He/She a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Hindu, or
a Buddhist?
Jesus did not specify, and neither would/could you
if you were of the body of Christ. Jesus being a Jew
taught equally to the gentiles.
So who today are the "gentiles", remember Jesus
was a Jew!
bd4u.utah

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.

If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.

I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?

bd4u.utah

bd4u.utah

2012-02-18 01:58:41 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-18 20:34:42 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

bd4u.utah

2012-02-19 03:30:29 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

Yer worse than those TV Evangelists, and
they are a JOKE! Condemning people who
TRULY believe in a True God above without
race, or religion. Which you simply condemn
any and all who might believe.

Hehh, go figure.. ..YOU are of your Father
the Devil, though you may deny it.

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-19 20:08:03 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

bd4u.utah

2012-02-20 17:54:35 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

The highway to hell is broad, you don't
need to be a hypocrite to travel it. There
is nothing to live up to, in fact the highway
to hell is a downward slippery slope the
whole way! The light is above, and only
darkness lies below.

bd4u.utah

bd4u.utah

2012-02-20 17:31:21 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-20 18:33:11 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 00:09:53 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-21 02:00:55 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 03:48:14 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?

So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?

See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!

That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.

The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-21 18:44:41 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?
So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?
See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!
That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.
The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!
bd4u.utah-

How come you are quoting Jesus, you said you weren't a Christian?

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 21:13:21 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?
So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?
See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!
That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.
The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!
bd4u.utah-

How come you are quoting Jesus, you said you weren't a Christian?

Heheh, how come you quote Jesus
yer not a Christian either.

To be honest I'm kind of like
Joseph Smith in some ways.
When Joseph Smith prayed to
God, he asked God "which church
should I join". And God said
"none of them". I have tried them ALL
and although they nearly all have to one
extent or another great works. They ALL
fall short of the Glory of God! Yes even
the LDS, or anybody else you care to
name.

I'm beginning to think that the Glory
(sanctity, holiness) of an Individual
can easily surpass the many.

"Lean not to thine own wisdom",
who said that, I can't remember
but I know it's in the Christian "babel"
somewheres..

And why did God divide the languages
to begin with? And which language is
MOST divided?

Everybody praise God, ..praise be unto
God on most high. For he is most wise
in all things.

Amen

"Knock and the door will be opened unto
you.." but first you have to knock, then it
will be opened.

"seek and ye shall find" but first you must
earnestly and honestly seek or you will
not find!

"ask and it will be given unto you".
Ask God, don't ask me! What the
hell do I know? ;-)

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-21 21:24:48 UTC

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?
So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?
See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!
That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.
The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!
bd4u.utah-

How come you are quoting Jesus, you said you weren't a Christian?

Heheh, how come you quote Jesus
yer not a Christian either.

How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Post by bd4u.utah
To be honest I'm kind of like
Joseph Smith in some ways.
When Joseph Smith prayed to
God, he asked God "which church
should I join". And God said
"none of them". I have tried them ALL
and although they nearly all have to one
extent or another great works. They ALL
fall short of the Glory of God! Yes even
the LDS, or anybody else you care to
name.

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

FOUNDED BETWEEN 1830 AND 1844
•
Pure Church of Christ, Wycam Clark, 1831

•The Independent Church, Hoton, 1832
•Church of Christ, Ezra Booth, 1836
•Church of Christ, Warren Parrish, 1837
•The Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, The Lamb's Wife, George M.
Hinkle, 1840
•Church of Christ, Hyrum Page, 1842
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, F. Gladden Bishop
•True Church of Jessu Christ of Latter Day Saints, Law, Foster,
Higbee, 1844
•Church of Christ, William Chubby

NON-EXTANT MOVEMENTS FOUNDED 1844-1860
•
Church of Christ / Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion,
Sidney Rigdon, 1844

•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, James Emmett, 1844
•Church of Christ, S. B. Stoddard, Leonard Rich, James Bump, 1845
•Indian Mormon, 1846
•Church of Christ, William McLellin, David Whitmer, 1847
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, William Smith, 1847
•Congregation of Jehovah's Presbytery of Zion, Charles B. Thompson,
1848
•Church of Christ, James C. Brewster, 1848
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Lyman Wight, 1849
•The Bride, The Lamb's Wife or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints, Jacob Syfritt, 1850
•Church of Christ, Hazen Aldrich, 1851

EXTANT MOVEMENTS

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints, James J. Strang, 1844
•
Church of Christ, Aaron Smith, 1846

•Church of the Messiah, George J. Adams, 1861
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
•Holy Church of Jesus Christ, Alexandre R. Caffiaux
•House of Ephraim and House of Manasseh of the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints, Jerry Sheppard
•The True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, David L.
Roberts
•Marriage Counseling Group
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, John J. Hajicek
•Strangite Believers in Pennsylvania

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, Brigham Young, 1847
•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or Church of the First
Born, Joseph Morris, 1861

•
The Prophet Cainan or Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints of the Most
High God, George Williams, 1862

•
Morrisite Group, John Livingston, 1864

•
Church of Zion, William S. Godbe, 1868

•
Church of the First Born, George S. Dove, 1874

•
Priesthood Groups (Fundamentalists), 1890

•
United Order of Equality, Ephraim Peterson, 1909

•
The Church of Jesus Christ of Israel, J. H. Sherwood

•
Order of Aaron, Maurice L. Glendenning

•
Church of Freedom of Latter Day Saints, 1950s

•
Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Marl V. Kilgore, 1951

•
The Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Joel F. LeBaron

•
The Church of the Firstborn, Ross W. LeBaron, 1955

•
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter Day Saints,
William C. Conway, 1958

•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, John Forsgren, 1960

•
Church of Jesus Christ, William Goldman, 1960

•
LDS Scripture Researchers/Believe God Society, Sherman Russell Lloyd,
1965

•
The Church of the Body and of the Spirit of Jessu Christ, Max Powers,
1965

•
United Order of the Saints of Guadeloupe, Michel Gamiette, 1966

•
United Order of the Family of Christ, David E. Desmond, 1966

•
Split from Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Eldon Taylor, 1969

•
Homosexual Church of Jesus Christ, Denver, Colorado, 1972

•
Latter Day Saints Church, N.S. Park, 1972

•
The Church of the Lamb of God, Ervil M. LeBaron, 1972

•
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Mikhail Krupenia,
1972

•
The New Jerusalem Group, Kathryn Carter, 1972

•
The Watchmen on the Towers of Latter Day Israel, Miltenberg, Braun,
1973

•
Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly, Alexnader Joseph, 1974

•
Evangelical Church of Christ, Church of the New Covenant in Christ,
John W. Bryant, 1974

•
Split form Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Barton Kilgore, 1975

•
Affirmation, 1975

•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Robert Simons, 1975

•
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Bruce Wakeham, 1975

•
Aaronic Order Break-off, 1977

•
Christ's Church, Inc., Gerald Peterson, 1978

•
Church of Jesus Christ, Art Bulla, 1978

•
The Restorers or School of the Prophets, Robert C. Crossfield, 1979

•
Zion's First International Church, LeeAnn Walker, 1980

•
The Free Will Mormon Church, Franklin Lee Coleman, 1980

•
Church of Jesus Christ, Jorge Mora, 1981

•
Sons Ahman Israel, Davied Israel, 1981

•
Samoan LDS Church, New Zealand, 1981

•
The Millennial Church of Jesus Christ, Leo P. Evoniuk, 1981

•
Peyote Way Church of God, Immanuel P. Trujillo, 1981

•
The Chruch of Jesus Christ of the Saints in Zion, Ken Asay, 1984

•
Break from the Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly, 1984

•
Church of Jesus Christ of All Latter-day Saints or Restoration Church
of Jesus Christ, Antonio A. Feliz, 1985

•
Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints, Robert P. Madison, 1985

•
Church of Christ the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Siegfried J.
Widmar, 1985

•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Fundamentalists, Wight
Family, 1985

•
Mormon Fundamentalists, England, Alan and Marian Munn, 1986

•
Churchof Jesus Christ Omnipotent, 1987

•
Community of Zion, Central Utah Division

•
Church of the First Born, General Assembly

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ,
Alpheus Cutler, 1853
•
Church of Jesus Christ, Clyde Fletcher, 1953

•The Restored Church of Jesus Christ, Eugene O. Walton, 1979

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Reorganized Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints, 1851-1860
•
Church of the Christian Brotherhood, Richard C. Evans, 1917

•The Church of Christ, the Order of Zion, John Zahnd, 1918
•The Church of Jesus Christ, Thomas W. Williams, 1925
•Church of Jesus Christ Restored, Stanley M. King, 1970
•New Jerusalem Church of Jesus Christ, Barney Fuller, 1975
•Church of Christ Restored, Paul Fishel, 1976
•True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Forrest Toney,
1980
•Church of the Restoration or Churches of Christ in Zion, Robert
Chambers, 1981
•Lamanite Ministries for Christ or New Covenant Ministries for
Christ, 1984
•Restoration Branches Movement, 1984
•Church of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, A. Lee Abramson, 1985
•Church of Jesus Christ, Zion's Branch, John Cato, 1986
•Church of Christ, David Clark, 1986
•Independent Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Christopher
C. Warren, 1986
•Native Indian Church

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ,
William Bickerton, 1862
•
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ, Allen Wright, 1907

•Primitive Church of Jesus Christ, James Caldwell, 1914

Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of Church of Christ (Temple Lot),
Granville Hedrick, 1863

•
Church of Christ, Independent, Informal, Frank F. Wipper, 1927

•
The Church of Christ, Otto Fetting, 1929

•
Church of Christ, P.A. Ely, 1929

•
Church of Christ, C.W. Humphrey, 1929

•
Church of Christ, Samuel Wood, E.J. Trapp, 1930

•
Church of Christ (Restored), A.C. DeWolf, 1936

•
Church of Christ, E. E. Long, Thomas Nerren, 1936

•
Church of Christ, Paul Hilgendorf, 1942

•
The Church of Christ With the Elijah Message, W. A. D. Draves, 1943

•
Church of Christ, Pauline Hancock, 1946

•
Antarctica Development Interests or the New American's Mount Zion,
John Leabo, 1955

•
Church of Christ at Zion's Retreat, Gerald Hall, 1973

•
The Church of Israel, Dan Gayman, 1973

•
Break from the Church of Christ (Hancock), Davison, Michigan, 1973

•
The Church of Christ, Restored Gospel 1929, 1985

Post by bd4u.utah
I'm beginning to think that the Glory
(sanctity, holiness) of an Individual
can easily surpass the many.
"Lean not to thine own wisdom",
who said that, I can't remember
but I know it's in the Christian "babel"
somewheres..
And why did God divide the languages
to begin with? And which language is
MOST divided?
Everybody praise God, ..praise be unto
God on most high. For he is most wise
in all things.
Amen
"Knock and the door will be opened unto
you.." but first you have to knock, then it
will be opened.
"seek and ye shall find" but first you must
earnestly and honestly seek or you will
not find!
"ask and it will be given unto you".
Ask God, don't ask me! What the
hell do I know? ;-)
bd4u.utah-

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 22:34:02 UTC

On Feb 21, 2:24 pm, "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

And your point IS exactly what?
Besides what I have already said.

It is far easier to find your own Glory
with God than it is to follow the masses.

SMM even suggested as much when he
suggested that each person was their own
Messiah.

IOW DON'T count on anybody else, except
God to get you where you need to go!

There is something to be said for absolute
faith in God!

M't:22:37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and
with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

THAT is the first commandment of Jesus Christ!
He only gave two, and that is all we should need!

bd4u.utah

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?
So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?
See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!
That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.
The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!
bd4u.utah-

How come you are quoting Jesus, you said you weren't a Christian?

Heheh, how come you quote Jesus
yer not a Christian either.

How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?
FOUNDED BETWEEN 1830 AND 1844
•
Pure Church of Christ, Wycam Clark, 1831
•The Independent Church, Hoton, 1832
•Church of Christ, Ezra Booth, 1836
•Church of Christ, Warren Parrish, 1837
•The Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, The Lamb's Wife, George M.
Hinkle, 1840
•Church of Christ, Hyrum Page, 1842
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, F. Gladden Bishop
•True Church of Jessu Christ of Latter Day Saints, Law, Foster,
Higbee, 1844
•Church of Christ, William Chubby
NON-EXTANT MOVEMENTS FOUNDED 1844-1860
•
Church of Christ / Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion,
Sidney Rigdon, 1844
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, James Emmett, 1844
•Church of Christ, S. B. Stoddard, Leonard Rich, James Bump, 1845
•Indian Mormon, 1846
•Church of Christ, William McLellin, David Whitmer, 1847
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, William Smith, 1847
•Congregation of Jehovah's Presbytery of Zion, Charles B. Thompson,
1848
•Church of Christ, James C. Brewster, 1848
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Lyman Wight, 1849
•The Bride, The Lamb's Wife or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints, Jacob Syfritt, 1850
•Church of Christ, Hazen Aldrich, 1851
EXTANT MOVEMENTS
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter Day Saints, James J. Strang, 1844
•
Church of Christ, Aaron Smith, 1846
•Church of the Messiah, George J. Adams, 1861
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
•Holy Church of Jesus Christ, Alexandre R. Caffiaux
•House of Ephraim and House of Manasseh of the Church of Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints, Jerry Sheppard
•The True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, David L.
Roberts
•Marriage Counseling Group
•Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, John J. Hajicek
•Strangite Believers in Pennsylvania
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, Brigham Young, 1847
•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or Church of the First
Born, Joseph Morris, 1861
•
The Prophet Cainan or Church of Jesus Christ of the Saints of the Most
High God, George Williams, 1862
•
Morrisite Group, John Livingston, 1864
•
Church of Zion, William S. Godbe, 1868
•
Church of the First Born, George S. Dove, 1874
•
Priesthood Groups (Fundamentalists), 1890
•
United Order of Equality, Ephraim Peterson, 1909
•
The Church of Jesus Christ of Israel, J. H. Sherwood
•
Order of Aaron, Maurice L. Glendenning
•
Church of Freedom of Latter Day Saints, 1950s
•
Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Marl V. Kilgore, 1951
•
The Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Joel F. LeBaron
•
The Church of the Firstborn, Ross W. LeBaron, 1955
•
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter Day Saints,
William C. Conway, 1958
•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, John Forsgren, 1960
•
Church of Jesus Christ, William Goldman, 1960
•
LDS Scripture Researchers/Believe God Society, Sherman Russell Lloyd,
1965
•
The Church of the Body and of the Spirit of Jessu Christ, Max Powers,
1965
•
United Order of the Saints of Guadeloupe, Michel Gamiette, 1966
•
United Order of the Family of Christ, David E. Desmond, 1966
•
Split from Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Eldon Taylor, 1969
•
Homosexual Church of Jesus Christ, Denver, Colorado, 1972
•
Latter Day Saints Church, N.S. Park, 1972
•
The Church of the Lamb of God, Ervil M. LeBaron, 1972
•
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Mikhail Krupenia,
1972
•
The New Jerusalem Group, Kathryn Carter, 1972
•
The Watchmen on the Towers of Latter Day Israel, Miltenberg, Braun,
1973
•
Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly, Alexnader Joseph, 1974
•
Evangelical Church of Christ, Church of the New Covenant in Christ,
John W. Bryant, 1974
•
Split form Zion's Order of the Sons of Levi, Barton Kilgore, 1975
•
Affirmation, 1975
•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Robert Simons, 1975
•
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Bruce Wakeham, 1975
•
Aaronic Order Break-off, 1977
•
Christ's Church, Inc., Gerald Peterson, 1978
•
Church of Jesus Christ, Art Bulla, 1978
•
The Restorers or School of the Prophets, Robert C. Crossfield, 1979
•
Zion's First International Church, LeeAnn Walker, 1980
•
The Free Will Mormon Church, Franklin Lee Coleman, 1980
•
Church of Jesus Christ, Jorge Mora, 1981
•
Sons Ahman Israel, Davied Israel, 1981
•
Samoan LDS Church, New Zealand, 1981
•
The Millennial Church of Jesus Christ, Leo P. Evoniuk, 1981
•
Peyote Way Church of God, Immanuel P. Trujillo, 1981
•
The Chruch of Jesus Christ of the Saints in Zion, Ken Asay, 1984
•
Break from the Church of Jesus Christ in Solemn Assembly, 1984
•
Church of Jesus Christ of All Latter-day Saints or Restoration Church
of Jesus Christ, Antonio A. Feliz, 1985
•
Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints, Robert P. Madison, 1985
•
Church of Christ the Firstborn of the Fulness of Times, Siegfried J.
Widmar, 1985
•
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Fundamentalists, Wight
Family, 1985
•
Mormon Fundamentalists, England, Alan and Marian Munn, 1986
•
Churchof Jesus Christ Omnipotent, 1987
•
Community of Zion, Central Utah Division
•
Church of the First Born, General Assembly
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ,
Alpheus Cutler, 1853
•
Church of Jesus Christ, Clyde Fletcher, 1953
•The Restored Church of Jesus Christ, Eugene O. Walton, 1979
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Reorganized Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter Day Saints, 1851-1860
•
Church of the Christian Brotherhood, Richard C. Evans, 1917
•The Church of Christ, the Order of Zion, John Zahnd, 1918
•The Church of Jesus Christ, Thomas W. Williams, 1925
•Church of Jesus Christ Restored, Stanley M. King, 1970
•New Jerusalem Church of Jesus Christ, Barney Fuller, 1975
•Church of Christ Restored, Paul Fishel, 1976
•True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Forrest Toney,
1980
•Church of the Restoration or Churches of Christ in Zion, Robert
Chambers, 1981
•Lamanite Ministries for Christ or New Covenant Ministries for
Christ, 1984
•Restoration Branches Movement, 1984
•Church of Jesus Christ, the Lamb of God, A. Lee Abramson, 1985
•Church of Jesus Christ, Zion's Branch, John Cato, 1986
•Church of Christ, David Clark, 1986
•Independent Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Christopher
C. Warren, 1986
•Native Indian Church
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of The Church of Jesus Christ,
William Bickerton, 1862
•
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ, Allen Wright, 1907
•Primitive Church of Jesus Christ, James Caldwell, 1914
Splinter Groups and Sub-movements of Church of Christ (Temple Lot),
Granville Hedrick, 1863
•
Church of Christ, Independent, Informal, Frank F. Wipper, 1927
•
The Church of Christ, Otto Fetting, 1929
•
Church of Christ, P.A. Ely, 1929
•
Church of Christ, C.W. Humphrey, 1929
•
Church of Christ, Samuel Wood, E.J. Trapp, 1930
•
Church of Christ (Restored), A.C. DeWolf, 1936
•
Church of Christ, E. E. Long, Thomas Nerren, 1936
•
Church of Christ, Paul Hilgendorf, 1942
•
The Church of Christ With the Elijah Message, W. A. D. Draves, 1943
•
Church of Christ, Pauline Hancock, 1946
•
Antarctica Development Interests or the New American's Mount Zion,
John Leabo, 1955
•
Church of Christ at Zion's Retreat, Gerald Hall, 1973
•
The Church of Israel, Dan Gayman, 1973
•
Break from the Church of Christ (Hancock), Davison, Michigan, 1973
•
The Church of Christ, Restored Gospel 1929, 1985

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 22:43:06 UTC

If all you do is follow the herd mentality
then you won't get any further than the
rest of the herd! At some point you have
to begin thinking outside the box.

SMM insinuated that he was looking
for leaders, NOT "followers". SMM officially
dissolved his Church long ago, but the sheep
still blindly follow, even though they know
not what!

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-21 22:51:35 UTC

Post by bd4u.utah
And your point IS exactly what?
Besides what I have already said.

The list below supported your view of the LDS Church, that's all.

Post by bd4u.utah
It is far easier to find your own Glory
with God than it is to follow the masses.

Do you find God's glory in the following actions by God?
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones.
Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the
little ones.
Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the
flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters.
I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.
2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child.
2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped
up.

Post by bd4u.utah
SMM even suggested as much when he
suggested that each person was their own
Messiah.

I would be offended if someone referred to me as a Messiah.

Post by bd4u.utah
IOW DON'T count on anybody else, except
God to get you where you need to go!

Counting on God could get you killed as I have shown above.

Post by bd4u.utah
There is something to be said for absolute
faith in God!

If one does not demonstrate that faith to God, His scriptures say He
will kill you.

Post by bd4u.utah
M't:22:37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and
with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Bad advice!

Post by bd4u.utah
THAT is the first commandment of Jesus Christ!
He only gave two, and that is all we should need!

Why post this, you and I are not Christians?

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah

IOW if you do NOT love the Hindu, or the Buddhist,
or the Muslim, or the Jew the same as a Christian,
then you are not living as Jesus Christ taught.
Jesus loved ALL mankind equally, and there was
no such thing as a "christian" during his time.
That bigotry didn't come until after him.
If you think you are better just because you call
yourself a "christian", you would do well to remember
and learn what Jesus Christ actually taught.
I say again, Jesus was a Jew, he was not Christian,
he was not Hindu, or Buddhist, or Muslim, or Jehovah
Witness, or Mormon, etc.. He was a True Son of the living
God, and he acted like one. Shouldn't/wouldn't/couldn't
you?
bd4u.utah

I'm sorry, I just get so fed up with the "holier
than thou", Christian Evangelists who are down
on ever body else except themselves. It's NOT
what Jesus taught.
bd4u.utah-

You have just posted three posts criticizing Christians,....bigot.

Hehh, you know what gets me? Yer not
Christian, yer not Jewish, yer not Mormon,
yer just the devils advocate and you don't
even believe in the devil.

You forgot one, I'm not a hypocrit either.

When you are a deceiver, being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's
all a LIE!
bd4u.utah-

Try this sometime, bd4u: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Back in your face dude, you try it,
I already do! Just more deception by you,
but I still love you!
bd4u.utah-

Your following quote doesn't show much love: "When you are a deceiver,
being a hypocrite
doesn't really matter does it, since it's all a LIE!" Again, try
this: "Love thy neighbor as thy self"

Hehh, whatsa matter, never heard
of "tough love"?
So when are YOU going to
"love thy neighbor" as thyself"?
Or are you some kind of Masochist?
See people don't realize just how
sick HATE, and BIGOTRY is.
Cause it all starts with hating
yourself to begin with!
That's where Masochism, Sadism,
Narcissism, and a whole host of
other psychological problems come
from. It comes from HATE of ones
own self.
The second commandment of Jesus
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" is
actually pretty ingenuous when you
look at it's potential for self healing.
That one commandment could end
social disease and injustice. It could
even put an end to yours!
bd4u.utah-

How come you are quoting Jesus, you said you weren't a Christian?

Heheh, how come you quote Jesus
yer not a Christian either.

How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

...
read more »- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

bd4u.utah

2012-02-25 12:27:31 UTC

Post by bd4u.utah
And your point IS exactly what?
Besides what I have already said.

The list below supported your view of the LDS Church, that's all.

Post by bd4u.utah
It is far easier to find your own Glory
with God than it is to follow the masses.

Post by bd4u.utah
SMM even suggested as much when he
suggested that each person was their own
Messiah.

I would be offended if someone referred to me as a Messiah.

Post by bd4u.utah
IOW DON'T count on anybody else, except
God to get you where you need to go!

Counting on God could get you killed as I have shown above.

Post by bd4u.utah
There is something to be said for absolute
faith in God!

If one does not demonstrate that faith to God, His scriptures say He
will kill you.

Post by bd4u.utah
M't:22:37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and
with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Bad advice!

Post by bd4u.utah
THAT is the first commandment of Jesus Christ!
He only gave two, and that is all we should need!

Why post this, you and I are not Christians?

You don't have to be "christian" to love and appreciate
Jesus, even Mohandas Gandhi loved and appreciated Jesus.

Which just goes to show people that you don't have to
be "christian" to be "saved" like they say, all you have to
do is "believe" in/on Jesus. Mohandas Gandhi was Hindu
NOT "christian" yet he believed.

Heck even Satan believes, how come not you?

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-25 17:32:36 UTC

Post by bd4u.utah
And your point IS exactly what?
Besides what I have already said.

The list below supported your view of the LDS Church, that's all.

Post by bd4u.utah
It is far easier to find your own Glory
with God than it is to follow the masses.

Post by bd4u.utah
SMM even suggested as much when he
suggested that each person was their own
Messiah.

I would be offended if someone referred to me as a Messiah.

Post by bd4u.utah
IOW DON'T count on anybody else, except
God to get you where you need to go!

Counting on God could get you killed as I have shown above.

Post by bd4u.utah
There is something to be said for absolute
faith in God!

If one does not demonstrate that faith to God, His scriptures say He
will kill you.

Post by bd4u.utah
M't:22:37: Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and
with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Bad advice!

Post by bd4u.utah
THAT is the first commandment of Jesus Christ!
He only gave two, and that is all we should need!

Why post this, you and I are not Christians?

You don't have to be "christian" to love and appreciate
Jesus, even Mohandas Gandhi loved and appreciated Jesus.

Gandhi also slept naked with teenaged girls.

Post by bd4u.utah
Which just goes to show people that you don't have to
be "christian" to be "saved" like they say, all you have to
do is "believe" in/on Jesus. Mohandas Gandhi was Hindu
NOT "christian" yet he believed.

Saved from what? When Gandhi died his sole possessions were a robe, a
pair of glasses, and a pair of sandles. You want to mimick him, be my
guest.

Post by bd4u.utah
Heck even Satan believes, how come not you?

Because I don't believe in Satan either. I'll leave that to the
pagans.

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah-

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 23:04:28 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?

They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.

Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?

Or as I like to tell others..

.."Do your own homework".

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-21 23:07:13 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah-

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 23:23:17 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Hahahahahahahhahhhh

Why, so that Satan and his
advocates (you) can win the battle?

"All that is necessary for the forces of
evil to win in the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."

- Edmund Burke

bd4u.utah

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 23:39:01 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Hahahahahahahhahhhh
Why, so that Satan and his
advocates (you) can win the battle?
"All that is necessary for the forces of
evil to win in the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke
bd4u.utah

See, I was looking forward to this
one on one without your cheer leading
squad in ARS to interject and cause
distractions for you!

Do you have any other questions,
complaints or concerns for me?

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-22 01:05:07 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Hahahahahahahhahhhh
Why, so that Satan and his
advocates (you) can win the battle?
"All that is necessary for the forces of
evil to win in the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke
bd4u.utah

See, I was looking forward to this
one on one without your cheer leading
squad in ARS to interject and cause
distractions for you!

No distractions for me, my feet are on solid ground.

Post by bd4u.utah
Do you have any other questions,
complaints or concerns for me?

No complaints or concerns, you are just intertainment to me.

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah-

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-22 00:54:11 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Hahahahahahahhahhhh
Why, so that Satan and his
advocates (you) can win the battle?

How can I be an advocate of Satan if I don't believe in him?

Post by bd4u.utah
"All that is necessary for the forces of
evil to win in the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke

That's Edmond Burke's opinion, I have mine, you have yours, others
have theirs,...who's is the best?

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah-

bd4u.utah

2012-02-22 01:11:19 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".

Agree, then you should stop posting advice to others!

Hahahahahahahhahhhh
Why, so that Satan and his
advocates (you) can win the battle?
"All that is necessary for the forces of
evil to win in the world is for enough
good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke
bd4u.utah

Mind you, I LOVE Satan. (just like
I love you too) He has been a good
adversary and I have learned
much from him. But only by defeating
do I gain a clue!

I could say more, but only those in
ARU and devoted to SMM would "gain
a clue". Which they already have..

bd4u

bd4u.utah

2012-02-21 23:17:42 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".
bd4u.utah

BTW: Most of those "splinters" of
the LDS that you listed were not
"splinters" of the LDS religion, they
were differing opinions, many of which
were ultimately joined with the LDS
Church.

See one thing that the LDS Church
recognizes is that "revelation" is
continuous, and that it can come
from almost anywhere. It's a growing
experience for everyone AND for the
Church.

NO I'm not trying to defend the LDS,
simply pointing out the inaccuracies
of your so called "list".

AND the fact that God is a living God
and NOT Dead! Meaning he and his
revelations are as much alive NOW
as it was way back when!

If I thought for a minute that God
was not alive, what would account
for my concerns of the Unification
Church and Sun Myung Moon, or
any others for that matter.

God works, it's people whom become
lazy and complacent. So every now
and then God sends forth NEW
revelation through whatever means
is willing to listen.

bd4u.utah

a***@yahoo.com

2012-02-22 01:02:16 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".
bd4u.utah

BTW: Most of those "splinters" of
the LDS that you listed were not
"splinters" of the LDS religion, they
were differing opinions, many of which
were ultimately joined with the LDS
Church.

True, but they started out as splinters with their own prophets.
Which prophet is correct? In my opinion, a prophet is just another
phoney fortune teller.

Post by bd4u.utah
See one thing that the LDS Church
recognizes is that "revelation" is
continuous, and that it can come
from almost anywhere. It's a growing
experience for everyone AND for the
Church.

Yeah, here is some revelation from God:
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones.
Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the
little ones.
Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the
flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters.
I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.
2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child.
2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped
up.

Considering the above, you can worship Him, I can't.

Post by bd4u.utah
NO I'm not trying to defend the LDS,
simply pointing out the inaccuracies
of your so called "list".

The list is correct, all were started at one time, some became
extant.

Post by bd4u.utah
AND the fact that God is a living God
and NOT Dead! Meaning he and his
revelations are as much alive NOW
as it was way back when!

Prove your above statement.

Post by bd4u.utah
If I thought for a minute that God
was not alive, what would account
for my concerns of the Unification
Church and Sun Myung Moon, or
any others for that matter.

Is Sun Myung Moon God, he claims to be,...as do many others.

Post by bd4u.utah
God works, it's people whom become
lazy and complacent. So every now
and then God sends forth NEW
revelation through whatever means
is willing to listen.

I've never seen any evidence that God has done anything but hook
people into believing nonsense. I've spent time fighting in a world
war, never seen God protect or heal any of our maimed soldiers no
matter how much they prayed. Ever know of God replacing a vets
amputated leg?

Ya know, bd4u, you are spreading false hope and bullshit to others.
So sad..........

Post by bd4u.utah
bd4u.utah-

bd4u.utah

2012-02-22 01:31:27 UTC

Post by bd4u.utah
BTW: Most of those "splinters" of
the LDS that you listed were not
"splinters" of the LDS religion, they
were differing opinions, many of which
were ultimately joined with the LDS
Church.

True, but they started out as splinters with their own prophets.
Which prophet is correct? In my opinion, a prophet is just another
phoney fortune teller.

Like I said before, why ask me,
go ask God.

bd4u.utah

bd4u.utah

2012-02-22 01:39:05 UTC

True, but they started out as splinters with their own prophets.
Which prophet is correct? In my opinion, a prophet is just another
phoney fortune teller.

Like I said before, why ask me,
go ask God.
bd4u.utah

IOW yer the one that wants to know, and I
admit that I don't know. God knows everything,
so why ask me, when there is God?

All you have to do is knock, and the door will
be opened. All you have to do is seek and you
will find, all you have to do is ask and it will
be given unto you.

"Faith without WORKS is dead".

It all starts with just a little bit of faith.
The faith of a mustard seed. Which grows
into a magnificent tree when planted.

bd4u.utah

bd4u.utah

2012-02-22 02:30:55 UTC

Post by a***@yahoo.com
How come you are quoting Jesus below, you're not a Christian either?
Why do you find fault in others when you have the same faults?

Have you tried all of the following splinter group break offs from
Mormonism?

Why should I? Is any one more right
than the other?
They ALL teach from the same D&C, the
same Pearl of Great Price, and the same
Book of Mormon.
Like I said before, "Ask God", don't ask
me what the hell do I know?
Or as I like to tell others..
.."Do your own homework".
bd4u.utah

BTW: Most of those "splinters" of
the LDS that you listed were not
"splinters" of the LDS religion, they
were differing opinions, many of which
were ultimately joined with the LDS
Church.

True, but they started out as splinters with their own prophets.
Which prophet is correct? In my opinion, a prophet is just another
phoney fortune teller.

Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones.
Deuteronomy 2:34 utterly destroyed the men and the women and the
little ones.
Deuteronomy 28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the
flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters.
I Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.
2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child.
2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped
up.
Considering the above, you can worship Him, I can't.

Post by bd4u.utah
NO I'm not trying to defend the LDS,
simply pointing out the inaccuracies
of your so called "list".

The list is correct, all were started at one time, some became
extant.

Post by bd4u.utah
AND the fact that God is a living God
and NOT Dead! Meaning he and his
revelations are as much alive NOW
as it was way back when!

Prove your above statement.

Post by bd4u.utah
If I thought for a minute that God
was not alive, what would account
for my concerns of the Unification
Church and Sun Myung Moon, or
any others for that matter.

Is Sun Myung Moon God, he claims to be,...as do many others.

Hehh, hehh, hehh.. Sun Myung Moon NEVER
claimed to BE God. AND I have NEVER heard
him or seen document where he has claimed
to be the "Messiah". Though there are many whom
(such as you) want to claim such without evidence.

On the other hand, SMM was quoted as saying that
we are ALL Messiahs. Meaning if we as individuals
are no longer sheep and lead our prodigy into the
promised land (kingdom of heaven) then we have done
the same as Jesus Christ for our family and clan.

Did not Jesus say "you shall do greater things than I"?
Meaning those that believed upon/in him. And kept his
two commandments.