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Judge Finds Onni Durst Lies Under Oath - BIG SURPRISE
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n***@yahoo.com
2016-02-13 05:27:57 UTC
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Following the Beast Who Is Her Master Onni Durst Practices Heavenly
Deception To Confuse All At To Whom The Real Beast Is. The greedy woman
didn't care about her follower; Durst wanted her money.
An interesting side note is how Damian purged this from the usenet
discussion when I posted it before.
The following are excerpts from a hearing held on October 27, 1999 in
Oakland, California, in the conservatorship of an adult Moonie woman who
jumped out of car going 60 on the freeway after going through am inner
struggle whether Moon had lied to her about what to expect from Moonie life.
Christina Morrison (Seher) was is the car. The woman has been in a coma
ever since. When Onni Durst petitioned the court to be appointed
conservator over the woman and to be in charge of her money, as well as
guardian over her children, Durst lied to the court. The lie was that Durst
did not know how to reach any of the woman's relatives even though two of
THE COURT: Mr. Greene, I have objections that have been filed on behalf of
[moonie woman's sister] to the petition for fees in the conservatorship.
. . .
THE COURT: Okay. I, at the beginning of this hearing, explained to Mr.
Goorjian what is troubling me about the petition for fees -- and I want to
say parenthetically, that I am not assessing any blame in this matter on Mr.
Goorjian; that I've looked at this purely in terms of what information Mr.
Goorjian has given by his client, Ms. Durst.
But as I stated earlier -- and Mr. Goorjian, I don't think you've
convinced me to the contrary -- I have real concerns about those statements
that Ms. Durst made in verified declarations that she -- and I'll quote it
from her declaration of, executed May 6th, 1999.
She said, "I was told by [Moonie woman] that both of her parents are
dead. I also believe that [Moonie woman] has siblings residing in China;
however, I do not know the names and addresses of those siblings."
And I'll be very honest with you. I have real problems with the
credibility of that statement. And I just cannot accept that statement,
based on all the other information that's been presented to me, which
includes the declaration of [moonie woman's daughter], the letters with the
return addresses of [moonie woman's sister] that have been presented, the
information that's been presented [moonie woman's brother] and the
information that's been presented by [moonie woman's sister].
And I understand the point that you're making that, regardless of
whether [moonie woman's sister] of Ms. Durst had presented the existence of
[moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] to the Court, she
still would have gone ahead with the petition for guardianship. However, as
I've stated previously, if Ms. Durst had presented the information regarding
the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] in her
declarations, I certainly would be more inclined to grant fees in this
matter.
And as I said, I'm not faulting you. I'm faulting Ms. Durst for not
giving you information that I believe she knew, and I believe she was aware
of the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother].
So -- the request for fees in both matters, for Mr. Goorjian's fees to be
paid out of the conservatorship estate, both of the guardianship matter and
the conservatorship matter, is denied. And the reason is, I've stated, that
I'm denying the request, is because I believe that Ms. Durst misrepresented
information to the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister]
and [moonie woman's brother] , and I believe it's her responsibility to pay
Mr. Goorjian's fees and not the conservator's responsibility.
I want to add, again, that if Ms. Durst had been more forthcoming with
the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie
woman's brother] and explained the issue of the estrangement and explained
the issue of their existence and why she was petitioning, I certainly would
be inclined to grant fees. But I don't think she was forthcoming with the
Court.
. . .
I understand that this is a difficult pill to swallow. However, when I
believe that someone is being less that forthright with the Court in a
verified declaration, I think that pill needs to be swallowed.
. . .
MR. GREENE: Your honor, I would just -- the argument that I would make
against you issuing that order [allowing reimbursement of a babysitter] is
that you have made a finding with respect to a lack of candor and
credibility.
THE COURT: I agree.
n***@yahoo.com
2016-02-13 05:31:09 UTC
Permalink
Following the Beast Who Is Her Master Onni Durst Practices Heavenly
Deception To Confuse All At To Whom The Real Beast Is. The greedy woman
didn't care about her follower; Durst wanted her money.
An interesting side note is how Damian purged this from the usenet
discussion when I posted it before.
The following are excerpts from a hearing held on October 27, 1999 in
Oakland, California, in the conservatorship of an adult Moonie woman who
jumped out of car going 60 on the freeway after going through am inner
struggle whether Moon had lied to her about what to expect from Moonie life.
Christina Morrison (Seher) was is the car. The woman has been in a coma
ever since. When Onni Durst petitioned the court to be appointed
conservator over the woman and to be in charge of her money, as well as
guardian over her children, Durst lied to the court. The lie was that Durst
did not know how to reach any of the woman's relatives even though two of
THE COURT: Mr. Greene, I have objections that have been filed on behalf of
[moonie woman's sister] to the petition for fees in the conservatorship.
. . .
THE COURT: Okay. I, at the beginning of this hearing, explained to Mr.
Goorjian what is troubling me about the petition for fees -- and I want to
say parenthetically, that I am not assessing any blame in this matter on Mr.
Goorjian; that I've looked at this purely in terms of what information Mr.
Goorjian has given by his client, Ms. Durst.
But as I stated earlier -- and Mr. Goorjian, I don't think you've
convinced me to the contrary -- I have real concerns about those statements
that Ms. Durst made in verified declarations that she -- and I'll quote it
from her declaration of, executed May 6th, 1999.
She said, "I was told by [Moonie woman] that both of her parents are
dead. I also believe that [Moonie woman] has siblings residing in China;
however, I do not know the names and addresses of those siblings."
And I'll be very honest with you. I have real problems with the
credibility of that statement. And I just cannot accept that statement,
based on all the other information that's been presented to me, which
includes the declaration of [moonie woman's daughter], the letters with the
return addresses of [moonie woman's sister] that have been presented, the
information that's been presented [moonie woman's brother] and the
information that's been presented by [moonie woman's sister].
And I understand the point that you're making that, regardless of
whether [moonie woman's sister] of Ms. Durst had presented the existence of
[moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] to the Court, she
still would have gone ahead with the petition for guardianship. However, as
I've stated previously, if Ms. Durst had presented the information regarding
the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] in her
declarations, I certainly would be more inclined to grant fees in this
matter.
And as I said, I'm not faulting you. I'm faulting Ms. Durst for not
giving you information that I believe she knew, and I believe she was aware
of the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother].
So -- the request for fees in both matters, for Mr. Goorjian's fees to be
paid out of the conservatorship estate, both of the guardianship matter and
the conservatorship matter, is denied. And the reason is, I've stated, that
I'm denying the request, is because I believe that Ms. Durst misrepresented
information to the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister]
and [moonie woman's brother] , and I believe it's her responsibility to pay
Mr. Goorjian's fees and not the conservator's responsibility.
I want to add, again, that if Ms. Durst had been more forthcoming with
the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie
woman's brother] and explained the issue of the estrangement and explained
the issue of their existence and why she was petitioning, I certainly would
be inclined to grant fees. But I don't think she was forthcoming with the
Court.
. . .
I understand that this is a difficult pill to swallow. However, when I
believe that someone is being less that forthright with the Court in a
verified declaration, I think that pill needs to be swallowed.
. . .
MR. GREENE: Your honor, I would just -- the argument that I would make
against you issuing that order [allowing reimbursement of a babysitter] is
that you have made a finding with respect to a lack of candor and
credibility.
THE COURT: I agree.
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Enrico Confetti
2021-02-19 22:58:47 UTC
Permalink
Following the Beast Who Is Her Master Onni Durst Practices Heavenly
Deception To Confuse All At To Whom The Real Beast Is. The greedy woman
didn't care about her follower; Durst wanted her money.
An interesting side note is how Damian purged this from the usenet
discussion when I posted it before.
The following are excerpts from a hearing held on October 27, 1999 in
Oakland, California, in the conservatorship of an adult Moonie woman who
jumped out of car going 60 on the freeway after going through am inner
struggle whether Moon had lied to her about what to expect from Moonie life.
Christina Morrison (Seher) was is the car. The woman has been in a coma
ever since. When Onni Durst petitioned the court to be appointed
conservator over the woman and to be in charge of her money, as well as
guardian over her children, Durst lied to the court. The lie was that Durst
did not know how to reach any of the woman's relatives even though two of
THE COURT: Mr. Greene, I have objections that have been filed on behalf of
[moonie woman's sister] to the petition for fees in the conservatorship.
. . .
THE COURT: Okay. I, at the beginning of this hearing, explained to Mr.
Goorjian what is troubling me about the petition for fees -- and I want to
say parenthetically, that I am not assessing any blame in this matter on Mr.
Goorjian; that I've looked at this purely in terms of what information Mr.
Goorjian has given by his client, Ms. Durst.
But as I stated earlier -- and Mr. Goorjian, I don't think you've
convinced me to the contrary -- I have real concerns about those statements
that Ms. Durst made in verified declarations that she -- and I'll quote it
from her declaration of, executed May 6th, 1999.
She said, "I was told by [Moonie woman] that both of her parents are
dead. I also believe that [Moonie woman] has siblings residing in China;
however, I do not know the names and addresses of those siblings."
And I'll be very honest with you. I have real problems with the
credibility of that statement. And I just cannot accept that statement,
based on all the other information that's been presented to me, which
includes the declaration of [moonie woman's daughter], the letters with the
return addresses of [moonie woman's sister] that have been presented, the
information that's been presented [moonie woman's brother] and the
information that's been presented by [moonie woman's sister].
And I understand the point that you're making that, regardless of
whether [moonie woman's sister] of Ms. Durst had presented the existence of
[moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] to the Court, she
still would have gone ahead with the petition for guardianship. However, as
I've stated previously, if Ms. Durst had presented the information regarding
the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother] in her
declarations, I certainly would be more inclined to grant fees in this
matter.
And as I said, I'm not faulting you. I'm faulting Ms. Durst for not
giving you information that I believe she knew, and I believe she was aware
of the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie woman's brother].
So -- the request for fees in both matters, for Mr. Goorjian's fees to be
paid out of the conservatorship estate, both of the guardianship matter and
the conservatorship matter, is denied. And the reason is, I've stated, that
I'm denying the request, is because I believe that Ms. Durst misrepresented
information to the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister]
and [moonie woman's brother] , and I believe it's her responsibility to pay
Mr. Goorjian's fees and not the conservator's responsibility.
I want to add, again, that if Ms. Durst had been more forthcoming with
the Court regarding the existence of [moonie woman's sister] and [moonie
woman's brother] and explained the issue of the estrangement and explained
the issue of their existence and why she was petitioning, I certainly would
be inclined to grant fees. But I don't think she was forthcoming with the
Court.
. . .
I understand that this is a difficult pill to swallow. However, when I
believe that someone is being less that forthright with the Court in a
verified declaration, I think that pill needs to be swallowed.
. . .
MR. GREENE: Your honor, I would just -- the argument that I would make
against you issuing that order [allowing reimbursement of a babysitter] is
that you have made a finding with respect to a lack of candor and
credibility.
THE COURT: I agree.
I was a hard core believer in Buddhism when I was invited to dinner with the Moonies back in 1973 in Berkeley California. My Moonie spiritual parents were Matthew (Jamie) Morrison and Beth. I knew the four Morrison siblings, Matthew, Kristina, Jennifer and Bonnie Elizabeth and Jeremy Schnee. For some reason I had special treatment and lived in Martin (Mose') Durst's house in Piedmont with three other college students instead of in the cramped sardine packed houses on Dana and Regent. I think I even had the luxury of having my own bed. Onni wanted me over there for some reason. I met her early on and even had a private meeting with her within my first couple of weeks. I wanted to leave a few times, but Onni personally insisted that I should stay. So I stayed with them for about three or four months. I thought the three younger Morrison siblings were very nice people. Kristina loathed me and I didn't care for her either. She was a frightening person. I'm not a coward, but she really unnerved me. I finally left after going through the Booneville experience and selling flowers and learning that they thought that God was like some cosmic Energizer battery made out of yin and yang.
The way I escaped was interesting. One day the flower van dropped me off in a section of San Francisco where a large Buddhist Monastery was. It just so happened I knew the Abbot and the monks in the Monastery, so I walked through the doors of the temple with my flower bucket, offered my flowers to the three large Buddha statues, found myself a meditation cushion (it was meditation time when I arrived), curled up into half lotus position and stayed for about a month. The team leader had no idea what happened to me. Interestingly, I wanted nothing to do with Christianity before meeting up with the Moonies, but afterward I became interested in the Bible, and a few years later trusted Jesus as my Lord and became a Christian, so the Unification Church was actually kind of a stepping stone for me from Buddhism to Christ except their ideas about God and Jesus were all wrong. My life has been a struggle since then in many ways, it has not been easy, but I trust in the Lord. God bless you.
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